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Squishy ftw · Dec 30, 2007, 06:54 PM // 18:54

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Originally Posted by Shakti

Not sure where you're going here....do you mean an elite that's further in a campaign than the char...? That falls under the "wait" catagory.

Or the "finish the campaign" category..

ElinoraNeSangre · Dec 30, 2007, 06:59 PM // 18:59

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Originally Posted by garethporlest18

Also this is the cost of laziness and there are A LOT of lazy people around this game.

Bingo.

The price is high because it saves you what might be a really nasty trip. If it's a really nasty trip, you ARE saving by paying the high price. If it's not a nasty trip, well then make the trip. The high price is for the covience of not making the trip.

Use GWG auctions as a guide for good tome prices if you're worried about being ripped off; they're pretty consistant. Not everything should be cheap; if luxury cars were cheap, Kia would go out of business. It's called an economy.

The way people are SUPPOSED to get Elite skills is with a cap sig and killing the boss, and this is a huge huge shortcut. Having an NPC that sells Elite tomes defeats the whole purpose of Elite Tomes, which was as a *Hard Mode reward*.

JASON626 · Dec 30, 2007, 07:07 PM // 19:07

The thing with elite tombs imo there are a few elite skills that just suck getting, key word few. Other circumstance are PvE characters that PvP. say you guest for someone and they ping you a bar that needs a secondary class elite, it kinda sucks to wait for a guy go cap an elite. I usually have some elite tombs in storage for that reason.

genofreek · Dec 30, 2007, 07:09 PM // 19:09

5-15k is the price you pay not to have to spend money and skill points on cap sigs, fight your way to the area of the game with the monster you need, go out, fight to the boss's location, hope it spawns, take it down, and cap. Generally I prefer to do my own capping and sell the tomes, but a lot of people don't want to have to grab, say, Mend Conditions again.

Steboy93 · Dec 30, 2007, 07:09 PM // 19:09

Just no.

The market dictates the price. Don't fancy buying because the price is too high? Don't buy it then.

kvndoom · Dec 30, 2007, 07:12 PM // 19:12

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Originally Posted by garethporlest18

Since I sell them more than buy them I do not agree with your sentiments.

Also this is the cost of laziness and there are A LOT of lazy people around this game.

That sums it up. You're paying for someone else's time farming the same boss over and over and over again (in hard mode, no less), hoping for a drop. As compared to you throwing together some heroes and killing the boss in easy mode and capping the skill. I bet for a time vs cost ratio, people are getting a bargain even at 10k.

**cosyfiep** · Dec 30, 2007, 07:13 PM // 19:13

yep its all supply and demand, if no one wanted these elite tomes then the price would drop.....so either go and cap the skill yourself or suckitup and buy an elite tome the lazy way.

And as has been said there are only a few elite skills that are hard to get to, most of the others are pretty simple......

and yes I think the prices are too high, but then again I do the capping myself and still think the 1plat for the skill cap sig is too high as well.

Lady Raenef · Dec 30, 2007, 07:15 PM // 19:15

Well, since as more and more elite tomes are recieved, more and more are being used. The price is what it has averaged to. As you can tell, Kanaxai's Edge is now practically worthless as it's been farmed. If someone makes elite tomes drop double, elite tomes would go down to about 1k in price. It would make Legendary Skill Hunter too easy to obtain.

ensoriki · Dec 30, 2007, 07:28 PM // 19:28

Elite tomes don't cost enough.
I want to sell my elite rit tomes for 50k.

KamikazeChicken · Dec 30, 2007, 07:34 PM // 19:34

Elite tomes cost exactly what the majority are willing to pay. If people decide they're no longer worth that much (rit tomes dropped from 20k to 10k in the last weeks), the prices drop accordingly.

There's only 1 instance that people are probably forced to use an elite tome (Quivering Blade; no point pissing off the amn fah), the rest of the tomes are just used because people don't want to work to go cap the skill.

Martin Alvito · Dec 30, 2007, 07:38 PM // 19:38

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Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears

What do you think about, when anet would implement now a Tome Seller NPC with FIXED prices for elites at for example 2 Platin and some little amount of pergament paper material..say 25 pergaments

That would be epic fail. You want a tome crafter, but don't want to implement a method for people to get RID of elite tomes? Bleah.

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Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears

then would have anet a new gold sink, because this would draw out money out of the game and not only change the money from account to account ..what is no money sink at all!!! + the rare material of pergament paper would finally also receive ingame a sense and reason for existence

1) This isn't a large enough money sink to matter. Show me more armor pieces that cost 75 ecto (or multiple armbraces) a pop, and I'll call them gold sinks.

2) Tragic that certain rare materials don't have a sense or reason to exist, isn't it? Quickly, now, get them counseling before they hurt themselves! This isn't a big deal at all.

You're right that implementing traders for a class of item generally reduces the price of those items. This is because it reduces the transaction costs (ie: time) associated with finding buyers. I'd be fine with implementing a trader and setting the initial prices somewhere around current market prices. What you suggest, however, is just NOT a good idea. Price ceilings are bad. Crafters for regular drops are bad.

Diddy bow · Dec 30, 2007, 07:39 PM // 19:39

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Originally Posted by Zeek Aran

People buy tomes for 5-12k. It's their choice. Supply and demand.

QFT. If people didnt buy them for that price, people would sell them cheaper. They are "expensive" because of lowish supply and largeish demand.

KANE OG · Dec 30, 2007, 07:49 PM // 19:49

No, they don't. Buy mine.

KANE

Bowstring Badass · Dec 30, 2007, 07:51 PM // 19:51

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Originally Posted by Sub Frost

Never paid for one, never will, paying 10k for something i can get for 1k doesn't make much sense for me.

QFT.

Only time I will ever use them is if I get them as a drop.

tortugan · Dec 30, 2007, 08:25 PM // 20:25

I disagree, if tomes would cost 2K each that would just turn legendary Skill hunter in another buy title, and also: you can just cap the skill, it's not *that* hard

Arkantos · Dec 30, 2007, 08:33 PM // 20:33

No need to rant about the price. It's supply and demand. Don't like the price, don't buy it. Simple, really.